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	<title>Comments on: Frank Lloyd Wright&#8217;s Love Affair</title>
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	<description>by Dr. Michael Blumenfield</description>
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		<title>By: Maurice Preter MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice Preter MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this book (and topic) review.

As part of an experimental study on the pathophysiology of panic disorder (which we believe is closely linked to the attachment-mediating endogenous opioid system), we looked into the long-term effects of early childhood separation on normal adults. We found striking fundamental differences in endogenous opioid reactivity based on presence of absence of early separation history. Of note, these were &quot;normal&quot; control subjects without any medical or psychiatric diagnosis.

The study was published in Psychological Medicine and can be found here:
http://psychiatryneurology.blogspot.com/2010/05/controlled-cross-over-study-in-normal.html


Best regards from New York,

Maurice Preter MD

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this book (and topic) review.</p>
<p>As part of an experimental study on the pathophysiology of panic disorder (which we believe is closely linked to the attachment-mediating endogenous opioid system), we looked into the long-term effects of early childhood separation on normal adults. We found striking fundamental differences in endogenous opioid reactivity based on presence of absence of early separation history. Of note, these were &#8220;normal&#8221; control subjects without any medical or psychiatric diagnosis.</p>
<p>The study was published in Psychological Medicine and can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://psychiatryneurology.blogspot.com/2010/05/controlled-cross-over-study-in-normal.html" rel="nofollow">http://psychiatryneurology.blogspot.com/2010/05/controlled-cross-over-study-in-normal.html</a></p>
<p>Best regards from New York,</p>
<p>Maurice Preter MD</p>
<p>psychiatryneurology.net</p>
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		<title>By: janet lipson</title>
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		<dc:creator>janet lipson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - I enjoy reading your articles - Keep them coming
Janet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; I enjoy reading your articles &#8211; Keep them coming<br />
Janet</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Olsson MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Olsson MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of Freud&#039;s darkest and ethically treacherous moments was when he advized Horace Frink MD to divorce his wife and marry his wealthy patient Angelica Wertheim Bijur after she left her husband. Freud even repulsively suggests that in addition to &#039;following his bliss&#039;, that his analysand Dr. Frink&#039;s new wife might be financially helpful to &quot;The Cause&quot; of psychoanalysis in America! (I did not believe this until I read the signed letters from Freud published in JOHNS HOPKINS MAGAZINE Vol 40 #2, April 1988, &quot;His Master&#039;s Choice&quot; pp40-49. This whole grim chapter in the history of psychoanalysis is cogently, fairly and elegantly described in Silas Warner&#039;s fine article, Freud&#039;s Analysis of Horace frink,MD: A Previously Unexplained Therapeutic Disaster&quot; in the Journal of the American Academy of Psychoanalysis Vol 22 #1 , pp137-152, 1994. One of Freud&#039;s huge blind spots seemed to be money and another, his worship of his precious libido theory. Sadly, Peter Olsson MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of Freud&#8217;s darkest and ethically treacherous moments was when he advized Horace Frink MD to divorce his wife and marry his wealthy patient Angelica Wertheim Bijur after she left her husband. Freud even repulsively suggests that in addition to &#8216;following his bliss&#8217;, that his analysand Dr. Frink&#8217;s new wife might be financially helpful to &#8220;The Cause&#8221; of psychoanalysis in America! (I did not believe this until I read the signed letters from Freud published in JOHNS HOPKINS MAGAZINE Vol 40 #2, April 1988, &#8220;His Master&#8217;s Choice&#8221; pp40-49. This whole grim chapter in the history of psychoanalysis is cogently, fairly and elegantly described in Silas Warner&#8217;s fine article, Freud&#8217;s Analysis of Horace frink,MD: A Previously Unexplained Therapeutic Disaster&#8221; in the Journal of the American Academy of Psychoanalysis Vol 22 #1 , pp137-152, 1994. One of Freud&#8217;s huge blind spots seemed to be money and another, his worship of his precious libido theory. Sadly, Peter Olsson MD</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Stanley Surman M.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Stanley Surman M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your piece on marriage and divorce.
I agree as did Victor Bloom that one cannot generalize. I suspect that
the uniqueness of each relationship poses an array of possibilities that
vastly exceeds the challenges posed in your previous essay on choice
of antidepressants.

As for Frank Lloyd Wright, there is a remarkable DVD available from Netflix that chronicles his work and his love relations. He and Mamah Cheney were very much in love. While on a business trip Wright learned that the home he had built for burned to the ground. It was a bizarre
case of arson at the hands of servants who were vengeful about the prospect of being fired by the mistress of the house. Having secured the doors from outside the house they set the place ablaze and deterred all other avenues of egress. Mamah Cheney perished with her dream house.

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On a considerably lighter note: There was a marital situation in my practice that called out for creative advocacy. A patient of many years was living in a marriage devoid of intimacy. Her husband saw me for an independent consultation and told me of the affair, unknown to his wife, that triangulated their marriage and, possibly, relieved a deep seated fear that attachment to his spouse would make him vulnerable to her loss. Couples therapy had failed to help and there was no motivation for individual therapy for the adulterer. Over time my patient pondered the idea of leaving him; but, was rooted to the marriage by ambivalence, self-doubt and depression. One day while meeting with her I paused and  looked toward the ceiling. A voice, my own, filled the room with a most remarkable phrase: GET A DIVORCE! &quot;Did you hear that?&quot; asked. My patient&#039;s gaze followed  the direction of my determined index finger. She smiled, faintly, we continued on in our therapy. And then it happened again! As if from that distant point on the ceiling, the same voice cried out: GET A DIVORCE! &quot; That&#039;s amazing!&quot; I said in my customary manner of speaking. &quot; Nothing like that has ever happened before...I can&#039;t imagine where that came from!&quot; It took some months but she ultimately lightened the burden in her life and struck off on a new path.

**********************************************************

Before ending ( Thank you for the stimulating blog) I do have a
strong recommendation for your Book Club:

&quot; The Wrong Side of an Illness    A Doctor&#039;s Love Story,&quot; copyright
Owen Stanley Surman M.D., 2008. The book is not about divorce. It is a journey ( my own ) in the form of a nonfiction novel ( there is such a thing) that earned honorable mention in the Life Stories category of The Writer&#039;s Digest 2009 International Awards for Self-Published Books.

 It is available on Amazon.com. The best recommendation I know
was from a  distinguished  medical colleague.  He joined me one night a dinner in celebration honoring a retiring senior colleague. &quot; I read your book&quot;, he said. That&#039;s what I would have done!&quot;

Nice to meet you,

Owen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your piece on marriage and divorce.<br />
I agree as did Victor Bloom that one cannot generalize. I suspect that<br />
the uniqueness of each relationship poses an array of possibilities that<br />
vastly exceeds the challenges posed in your previous essay on choice<br />
of antidepressants.</p>
<p>As for Frank Lloyd Wright, there is a remarkable DVD available from Netflix that chronicles his work and his love relations. He and Mamah Cheney were very much in love. While on a business trip Wright learned that the home he had built for burned to the ground. It was a bizarre<br />
case of arson at the hands of servants who were vengeful about the prospect of being fired by the mistress of the house. Having secured the doors from outside the house they set the place ablaze and deterred all other avenues of egress. Mamah Cheney perished with her dream house.</p>
<p> *******************************************************<br />
On a considerably lighter note: There was a marital situation in my practice that called out for creative advocacy. A patient of many years was living in a marriage devoid of intimacy. Her husband saw me for an independent consultation and told me of the affair, unknown to his wife, that triangulated their marriage and, possibly, relieved a deep seated fear that attachment to his spouse would make him vulnerable to her loss. Couples therapy had failed to help and there was no motivation for individual therapy for the adulterer. Over time my patient pondered the idea of leaving him; but, was rooted to the marriage by ambivalence, self-doubt and depression. One day while meeting with her I paused and  looked toward the ceiling. A voice, my own, filled the room with a most remarkable phrase: GET A DIVORCE! &#8220;Did you hear that?&#8221; asked. My patient&#8217;s gaze followed  the direction of my determined index finger. She smiled, faintly, we continued on in our therapy. And then it happened again! As if from that distant point on the ceiling, the same voice cried out: GET A DIVORCE! &#8221; That&#8217;s amazing!&#8221; I said in my customary manner of speaking. &#8221; Nothing like that has ever happened before&#8230;I can&#8217;t imagine where that came from!&#8221; It took some months but she ultimately lightened the burden in her life and struck off on a new path.</p>
<p>**********************************************************</p>
<p>Before ending ( Thank you for the stimulating blog) I do have a<br />
strong recommendation for your Book Club:</p>
<p>&#8221; The Wrong Side of an Illness    A Doctor&#8217;s Love Story,&#8221; copyright<br />
Owen Stanley Surman M.D., 2008. The book is not about divorce. It is a journey ( my own ) in the form of a nonfiction novel ( there is such a thing) that earned honorable mention in the Life Stories category of The Writer&#8217;s Digest 2009 International Awards for Self-Published Books.</p>
<p> It is available on Amazon.com. The best recommendation I know<br />
was from a  distinguished  medical colleague.  He joined me one night a dinner in celebration honoring a retiring senior colleague. &#8221; I read your book&#8221;, he said. That&#8217;s what I would have done!&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice to meet you,</p>
<p>Owen</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Bloom MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Bloom MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the reviewer said, it is wrong to generalize.  In my own case it was clear that two people in unfulfilled marriages were better divorcing and marrying a more suitable mate, than merely hanging in with an unsatisfactory marriage &#039;for the sake of the kids.&#039;  In my case we were both were in longterm, intensive analyses during the process, and later, our kids had some serious therapy as young adults.  As a consequence, all our kids are now happily married; none have had divorces.  They are great parents, successful in their careers, and our grandchildren are doing wonderfully well.  We have been married now for 40 years and are quite happy with each other.  Our kids have learned that it is better to get out of a bad situation and make it better, than to live in a bad situation.  We each thought that staying married to unsuitable first partners, would be exactly the wrong message to give to our offspring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the reviewer said, it is wrong to generalize.  In my own case it was clear that two people in unfulfilled marriages were better divorcing and marrying a more suitable mate, than merely hanging in with an unsatisfactory marriage &#8216;for the sake of the kids.&#8217;  In my case we were both were in longterm, intensive analyses during the process, and later, our kids had some serious therapy as young adults.  As a consequence, all our kids are now happily married; none have had divorces.  They are great parents, successful in their careers, and our grandchildren are doing wonderfully well.  We have been married now for 40 years and are quite happy with each other.  Our kids have learned that it is better to get out of a bad situation and make it better, than to live in a bad situation.  We each thought that staying married to unsuitable first partners, would be exactly the wrong message to give to our offspring.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the great tragedies of 20th century family therapy literature was that they kept repeating the research finding of a study done (I don&#039;t know where) on the effects on children of unhappy marriage vs. divorce.  I often heard that &quot;researach shows that children are better off with divorce, than living in a family with unhappy parents.  I once actually found the study, but could never find any replication or follow-up of that research tudy.  Clearly it is not true, and is no longer quoted.

But there was a time when our culture wanted to hear that message, and so we gave validity to an unsubstantiated study.  

The result was a belief that if I am unhappy, unfulfilled, or just bored with my life, it is OK to get out of my unsatisfactory marriage and go to the one I love.

We all have worked with people who repeated their unhappiness in their second and third marriages.  They keep bringing themselves into each new relationship, expecting the new person to fill their emptiness or repair their pain.

Marion Solomon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the great tragedies of 20th century family therapy literature was that they kept repeating the research finding of a study done (I don&#8217;t know where) on the effects on children of unhappy marriage vs. divorce.  I often heard that &#8220;researach shows that children are better off with divorce, than living in a family with unhappy parents.  I once actually found the study, but could never find any replication or follow-up of that research tudy.  Clearly it is not true, and is no longer quoted.</p>
<p>But there was a time when our culture wanted to hear that message, and so we gave validity to an unsubstantiated study.  </p>
<p>The result was a belief that if I am unhappy, unfulfilled, or just bored with my life, it is OK to get out of my unsatisfactory marriage and go to the one I love.</p>
<p>We all have worked with people who repeated their unhappiness in their second and third marriages.  They keep bringing themselves into each new relationship, expecting the new person to fill their emptiness or repair their pain.</p>
<p>Marion Solomon</p>
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